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Destra Garcia |
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- Destra Garcia of Trinidad and Tobago is one of the most successful and popular
SOCA music artists in the world. Like Beyoncé, Alicia Keys, Mary J and
others, Destra has cultivated and maintained a special bond with her adoring
young fans who make up a large percentage of her following. In
addition to her steady stream of music hits known throughout the
Caribbean and abroad, Destra is a major and regular contributor to the steelband
music as a songwriter of tunes that have been routinely adapted for the steel
orchestra.
Here, in an exclusive,
no-holds-barred interview with When Steel Talks
(WST), Soca Diva, songstress and steelband music songwriter Destra Garcia
expounds on
her special relationship and love affair with the steelpan instrument, the music
and culture.
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to see the list of tunes for
Panorama 2010 |
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WST
- In addition to your
popular music works - the name Destra has been associated
with pan for some time now. When and how did you
first connect with pan?
Destra-
“Actually, before I even became the popular Destra
everybody knows of - while I sang calypso in
primary school, secondary school - I actually did
make about three pan songs (“We Pan” which talks
about the invention of pan from Tamboo Bamboo drums,
slavery and that sort of thing and the other song is
“Soca Pan” talking about the melodies and the
symphonies and how it makes you move. I grew up
listening to pan. My uncles
[Kelvin and Reginald “[Snagga)” Alexander uncles in Desperadoes....
Reginald has been playing since age ten] were
involved in pan; they still are - they were
affiliated to WITCO
Desperadoes as I grew up in Laventille. Every
Carnival Friday - it was routine for me -
every year, to wear a Despers pan T-shirt and to go to
school with it. I was always exited about the new T
Shirt they came out with. You know, I was always
around pan. I was even around when
Rudolph Charles died and saw them take his
chariot through the hills. I was always very
inspired and touched by pan. The first person that
actually made me record - a pan song - was André
Tanker, with ‘Rollercoaster.’ And I think that was my
first official recording that was ever played on
the radio. I’m not sure what year that was...
But I believe that two years
or maybe a year after that, it caught the
attention of
Mark Loquan. And he really found that I was an
inspired writer and he wanted us to work [together].
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“I
was always very inspired
and touched by pan...” |
It was quite different from doing party songs... or
songs that are slower, or that make you gyrate or
wine - but because of the emotions that is in pan -
going to panorama in Trinidad and Tobago and
remembering the nostalgia involved with it - it is
quite easy to just be a part of it. So I think that
was the first connection - one unofficial, and one
official - with Mark.
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WST
- Have you ever played pan?
Destra
- Actually my uncle (Snagga) - the same one I was
talking about - he tried to make me learn when I was
younger - he is actually one of the first people
that taught me how to read music. I don’t
play any instrument now. When I was in school I was
having a lot difficulties in reading music and
passing my music exams - and he showed me how to play
pan. I learned one song but I don’t think
instruments were my thing, my forte. I was
gravitating toward singing and, you know, composing
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that sort of thing. But I have played - I can’t say
I haven’t.
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WST
- There are two songs
out for 2010 - ‘Rewind’
and ‘Surrender’
that you were involved with. What was your
motivation behind the lyrical content for both
songs?
Destra
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For the past three years we have been working with
Professor Philmore - this year when they brought
the melodies to me - because that is what they do -
they bring the melody and production to me and then
I just do the lyrics; when I heard the first song
which was “Surrender”
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I tried to feed of their vibe - of where they wanted
to go; you know - it’s a collective thing. The music
make you feel like you just want to surrender, just
release - everything, you know? Then we started to
think about the music...
The way how pan, the evolution of pan now, so much
so that people gravitate more towards the party
songs and the trucks, and taking music where it use
to be. And then I started to remember that this year
when
Boogsie Sharpe got his award - he was most
disenchanted with the pan and where it was going,
and he said that “pan is dead.” So I mean, I echoed
his sentiments, you know, especially as someone who
is involved in the “other” [party] genre of music -
that people, you know, would think is ‘killing pan’ - like
“party songs.” People want to go
party, people want to go on cruises. People not
really gravitating towards the pan music, especially
the younger generation.
So - I thought that I could let
the people know, that if we “surrender” - to music -
and not just think about it just being pan - but the
music in pan: “Surrender and give yourself to me”-
would feel good. Just how the music making you
‘Ramajay,’ look how the music making you ‘Dingolay’
- don’t think about it as Pan music. Just surrender
to the music. Feel it, you know? Live it,
Enjoy it.
Just as how you would feel to jump and wave - feel
the elements of pan and make it move you.
I tried to get back to the
sentiments of old, when I use to go to panorama with
my uncles and see Despers come down from the hills
and everybody supporting them - not just the group
that are your neighbors or your friends - but
hearing the different compositions and arrangements
of the songs... Young people need to experience
that. And I don’t think they give themselves and
give the music enough of a chance to do that. So
“Surrender” is all about letting go, and letting the
music take control.
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WST
- And Rewind?
Destra
- And “Rewind”
- you have to reflect back to what
Boogsie Sharpe
said - that “pan is dead.” I started
to think: “You know what? Pan is a woman - I am a
woman. I wanted to personify Pan as a woman, put it
out as a woman because I wanted to relate to it, in
a very vivid sense. I am thinking that if Pan and I
are the same, and I am a woman, and all of a sudden
my lover, or my husband, or the people that love
me.... I turned the entire pan fraternity into one
‘being’ - you know, my husband - or my lover. And
all of a sudden, there is no love for me. I feel
dead. I feel sadness because, you know, it’s like a
woman being replaced by something new - someone new. So - once you feel like something is wrong with you,
you feel like: ‘what happened to the good times? Did
I do something wrong? Can’t we just go back to that,
can’t we just go back to the way things used to be?’
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“I does get love up everywhere,
Brooklyn to Berlin, anywhere
Feel like royalty when I’m there,
So tell me why yuh act like I don’t exist
Every time that I’m here” |
‘There was a time when you loved me for me. We went
through all these things together... before we
shared our first passionate kiss; we shared our
first passionate embrace; you were so
fascinated with me, you know.’ And I tried to relate
all that back to pan, to the creators, the tamboo
bamboo evolution, the whole creation with Winston
Spree - and these are some people where - they took
pan from just being one instrument and turned it
into a whole lot of different types - created the
steelband.
You know, I tried to do a song that could
give you a history lesson, as well as a sentimental
record, you understand? I got into it, I really got
into it as a person! To make people
understand that listen ‘I’m crying out to you - as a
woman. Love me; let’s go back. Let’s go back to what
we know. “Rewind.” Time to rewind; time to rewind; go back in
time.’ So that was the whole concept. I was trying to
take that statement that
Boogsie Sharpe
made, which
is a really real one, and try to fix whatever is
there - you know, in my own way. So one song -
that’s why I could not do one song this year [there
was so much to say!]
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WST
- Over the years, which development in the steelpan
art form has pleased, or struck a chord within you,
most?
Destra
- Well by the time I was already of age to
experience pan, you already had the developments
[inventing & manufacturing] of
the different types of pan.... A lot of the people
who were involved in the arranging process - like
[Clive]
Bradley; a lot of different people -
Robert Greenidge,
Boogsie Sharpe; I mean - we
could go on and on. Ken “Professor” Philmore,
definitely. You know, a lot of these people - the
way how they [the arrangers] interpret pan, and make
it into something very creative - they take a song,
and then they hear other melodies that would sound
good on pan, not necessarily something that you
would normally hear, unless you hear it being done. Creation of these different types of things - that
impresses me. I mean, you have one creator - of
lyrics. Yeah, you could create lyrics, or you can
write a song, or you could perform it and interpret
it your own way, add your ‘ad libs’ - whatever. But when somebody takes a song
that’s already done. and still put parts to it that
would sound good on pan and make it sound like -
really angelic, that is amazing.
Also - I like the fact that pan has gone worldwide. When I see Chinese people beating pan, for example,
you know, it’s like ‘Wow, this is the pan that
evolved in the Caribbean - from nothing. And people
all over the world are embracing it. So much so that
they use it; when we have these pan festivals, and
all these different people come from all over the
world - to play. And you see how much they embrace
it, how much they love it, and they put their own
interpretation to it - that is something to feel
proud about. I’m impressed, at the same time.’
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WST -
What in the steelpan artform do you find to be
problematic or disappointing?
Destra -
Well, I was actually first disappointed when they
actually moved Pan from the Savannah, because that
was something traditional. I am not going to knock
anybody for it, like say - it’s this one’s fault, or
it’s that one’s fault; because I don’t want to get
into the personal aspect of it. But all I know is
that as someone who actually supports pan - the
whole idea of the Savannah is - what Pan is. And
that was disappointing to me at first.
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“I think it is
disappointing that they [Trinbago radio
stations] don’t play more pan
as part of their daily rotation/play list” |
It is also disappointing to me
that not a lot of youngsters are exposed [to,] or love
Pan the way they should. I know that they tried to
introduce Pan in Schools, and they tried to do a lot
of different things, but you know - maybe the radio
stations? I think it is disappointing that they
don’t play more pan as part of their daily
rotation/play list, but they focus on the ‘party
tunes.’ Which I could understand as a DJ, that’s the
music you feel. But still - a lot more of the DJs
and the people in charge should take time, to
experience the national instrument for what it’s
worth, and the music that is used to highlight the
national instrument, and play pan songs on the
radios.
For me, it’s sad that, you know, you put all this
work into a pan song - as you would say a “pan
song”- you know, (which I really don’t think, it have
any such thing as a “pan song,” you know) - it’s music. And you [DJs] would play any other Destra
[song] on the radio. But you would not play “Rewind”
or you would not play “Surrender” or you wouldn’t
play “Colours Again.” Unless it becomes a ‘big
tune.’ And you know it. I think they should give “pan songs” a space - I think that pan songs should
have a place on the radio, and to be heard for what
it is, and to be loved for what it’s worth. Because
we have a lot of fans out there - of pan music -
just like we have a lot of fans out there of soca, or
ragga soca, or the slow groove soca. I think that is
disappointing - that we don’t have an equal forum
for that [pan music and pan songs].
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WST -
You’ve answered above, in
part, the next question that we have for you, which
is: what would you like to see happen for the
so-called “pan tune” in the future?
Destra
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Well, yeah, I guess I answered part. The so-called
pan tune, apart from the radio play - I think that
people need to be very creative in what we write,
you know. I’m not saying don’t mention pan in the
songs. But let’s get away from the concept of -
we’re writing a “pan” tune, and we need to talk
about the steelband, and the “dis and the dat.” Now
take music for pan. I’m trying to create music -
alongside Mark [Loquan] and “Professor” [Philmore] -
that doesn’t really say “pan.” It’s difficult; it’s
work in progress, because when the arrangement say
pan, it is really difficult not to mention pan.
Let’s get more creative so that we can attract a
different audience. Let’s get more creative so that
the youngsters who are into other things, gravitate
toward the lyrics, and feel it in a different way so
that maybe, you know, they would be more interested.
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“We cannot
expect the young people to gravitate towards
it when there is so much more out there that
interests them” |
And I’m not saying to take away the melodies and the
harmonies that make it a so-called ‘pan tune; but
let’s revamp the whole thing. We do have a different
generation. We have Michael Jackson, for example,
who is somebody our parents and grandparents
listened to. But he found a way to reinvent himself
for this generation, you know. And if he could do
it, and live, then live on as the King of Pop, and
die, and have such a magnanimous impact on the world
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in death, then we need to do something about this
music that we call “Pan music.” We cannot expect the
young people to gravitate towards it when there is
so much more out there that interests them so. So we
need to find that niche, that niche that makes pan
interesting and lovable again. I would like to see
pan go there.
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WST -
What is next for Destra
Garcia?
Destra -
You
mean apart from having my baby? [Destra laughs - her
baby is due in two weeks.] “Well, this year [2010] I
decided to stay out of Carnival - for the obvious
reason. I think that I am probably going to still do
my tours as usual when Carnival is over, but I am
going to be planning a very intense ‘comeback,’ I
think. I already miss Carnival, I haven’t really
gotten into gear as yet, but I already miss not
being able to go on stage, and I know that I am
going to get a serious ‘tabanca’ [longing] when I
see everybody
else performing, and I can’t; I have
been a part of Carnival ever since I was ten years
old. You know - it is strange for me to just have
one song on the radio playing, one up-tempo song.
You know my pan songs are doing great as usual.
I think I am going to plan, maybe, a great comeback -
in the sense of, you know, reinvention; maybe, or
just, you know - making it a big deal - that I am
back. A lot of people are telling me that they are
going to miss me for Carnival; I’m going to miss
them too. So when I get back on that stage - I want
to make it worth the while, not just for them, but
for me as well - just be the best performer that I
could be as well, again - I always try to do that. But to come back in a different way; as a Mother, I
think I am probably going to have a different
perspective on a lot of things. I don’t think it’s
gonna change me as a performer per se. But getting
this ‘down’ [pregnancy] time, I’m getting a lot of
time to reflect on myself - as an artist - and as
you know, we need to grow.”
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